Adam_Smithee

I can honestly say that I reallly really dont think CK influenced Casablanca….. how would you say it did influence it? and Casablanca did go through a long shoot process. although CK did have a “for its time” momment with the complete control thing….Casablanca captured the exact feeling America had ... more >

I can honestly say that I reallly really dont think CK influenced Casablanca….. how would you say it did influence it? and Casablanca did go through a long shoot process. although CK did have a “for its time” momment with the complete control thing….Casablanca captured the exact feeling America had before entering WWII Rick defined America. This movies message came out at the perfect time and nothing like had ever happened before on that level.

BeetNeek said:

Adam_Smithee said:

I agree that Citizen Kane set the bar for what a camera could do to help tell a story, Overrated doesnt mean bad it just means overrated. Technically you got the dates right CK (1941) but Casablanca was 1942 thats too soon to be influenced by Citizen Kane. I dont know who Robert McKee is…I just love Casablanca and Humphrey Bogart unconditionally.

BeetNeek said:

Adam…have you been to a Robert McKee workshop, he thinks the same of Casablanca. CK, set the bar for so many movies to follow…including Casablanca…so there (let’s hope I have my dates right?)! I’d like to nominate Raging Bull as one of the greatest movies of all time…(note…one of the greatest)

Robert McKee is this guy who teaches people to write scripts – he believes it’s all a formula (apparently) and it can be taught. Check out the movie Adaptation (brilliant by the way). Don’t you think, in the 40s making a film took weeks not months, so a years gab was plenty of time to influence (I’m just guessing of course). I hear what your saying about CK, but it’s not just camera angles it was everything…because the studios gave total control to Orson Welles he let everyone be the most creative. Pretty impressive for a time when studios ruled. (thanks by the way for the discussion – i love stuff like this)